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Debt Freedom: Cleaning Up Debt Through Self-Immersion

July 5, 2017 By Thinking of Someday

Today we’re sharing another extension of our Success Stories interviews. This interview series is from people who are sharing their story about reaching debt freedom and is appropriately named Debt Free Finally. Today’s interview is from one of our blogging friends, My Son’s Father (MSF). You might remember us mentioning him in our three-month blogging update. So it was only right that we finally built up the courage to ask him for an interview. If you haven’t had a chance to check that post out yet, we met MSF through Twitter and blogging when he decided to leave us a comment on one of our posts. So enough with the introduction, let’s get into this interview!

How old are you?

37 Years Old. I was born at the end of 1979, so I fall into that weird generational gap between being a Gen Xer and a Millennial.

Are you married? Kids?

Yes, my wife is way out of my league, but I somehow convinced her to marry me. We’ve been happily married for the past 10 years and have 2 boys’ ages 7 and 6. My oldest is a carbon copy of my wife and my youngest is a carbon copy of me.

Why did you want to get out of debt?

I was taught at a young age that debt should be avoided. For some reason, this sage advice didn’t sink in until I found myself in a fair amount of debt. But once I woke up and realized just how bad our debt was, drastic action was taken. I hate the feeling of being indebted to someone.

I’ve always been a natural saver and even as a kid I would much prefer to keep my money than buy something with it. So I’ve tried to limit our monthly bills to have as few as possible. And paying off our debts was the best way to keep the money we were earning.

How much debt did you pay off? How long did it take you?

So we still carry our primary mortgage but hope to be in a position to pay that off in the next few years.

But if you add all the debts that we carried, our grand total was around $358,000 (this includes our mortgage). We didn’t have all that debt at the same time, but it gives you a rough estimate of what we were dealing with.

We also had 2 kids during this time and my wife and I each had some medical issues that needed to be addressed. So we could easily add another $10-$12k in medical bills during our debt repayment journey.

It took us about 8 years. Some years were more aggressive than others.

What type of debt did you pay off?

The vast majority of it was student loans, but we didn’t discriminate. We had car loans, second mortgages, credit card debt, and even some medical bills we had to pay off during that time.

What’s your income range?

We started tackling our debts right around the time that we got married and our combined yearly income at that time was around $60k. It has grown steadily since that time.

What was your plan for getting out of debt?

I mostly followed Dave Ramsey’s plan. Reading his books and listening to his podcasts were so encouraging while tackling our debt.

The one place I diverged from Ramsey’s plan was with retirement savings. This was primarily because it would take us years and years to pay off the debts. If it were only a matter of months I would have likely followed his plan to the letter.

How does it feel to be debt free?

This is a tough question to answer. It was different from what I thought. We were paying off debt for so long that by the time we got to the last few months, debt freedom felt inevitable.

Don’t get me wrong, when we sent in our last payment, it felt great. Just not as great as I expected it too.

Then the real surprise came. The weeks after paying off our debt, I felt lost. We’d worked towards this one goal for so long and when we finally achieved it I didn’t know what to do with myself. I hadn’t really thought about what came next.

I eventually settled on financial freedom as my next goal, but there were a few weeks of soul searching before I got there.

Are you investing?

Yes. Our primary investment vehicle is currently our 401k’s. Shortly after becoming debt free, we upped our contribution to the maximum allowable. In the last couple of years, we’ve also maxed out our HSA accounts as well and will plan on continuing to do so as long as we are able. Next will be Roth IRA’s followed by 529’s for our 2 boys. If there is anything left over, it’ll go into a taxable brokerage account.

What role did doing a budget play in you getting out of debt?

I’m a natural budgeter, but my wife is not. So when we first started paying off debt, I slashed our budget to the bone. And month after month my artfully crafted budget would fall apart.

While our budget was an integral piece of the puzzle in helping us get out of debt, it served a more important purpose in our debt free journey. It helped me understand that our priorities are different.

Not dramatically different. We still had the same end goal; we just had different tolerances to get there. Turns out my wife wanted to get a haircut every once in a while and buy new clothes more frequently than once a decade.

What’s your focus with your money now that you’re out of debt?

Financial Independence.

Is debt free spending a different feeling than spending with debt?

I’m not much of a spender and have always had a really hard time spending money on most things, with the exception of food and travel. However, now that we have no debt and a decent sized emergency fund, spending money feels really different.

My wife generally likes to join a gym for the few months of winter that she can’t get outside. When we had our baby emergency fund ($1000) and a mountain of debt, this was a very stressful addition to our budget. Now, I don’t even blink when I add it into our budget for those winter months.

Do you plan to live a debt free life now?

Absolutely! Barring some sort of medical emergency over several years that would decimate our savings, I can’t imagine going back into debt for any reason.

One tip or word of advice for someone trying to get out of debt?

One of the things I talk about on my site is my philosophy of change. I believe that the thing that gives us the best chance to create lasting change in our life is immersing yourself in the change you want in your life.

I don’t think I would’ve been able to maintain the motivation for debt freedom had I not immersed myself in debt free materials: podcasts, books, blogs, and relationships.

So my best advice is to keep reading what Kim and Omar have to say. Find other bloggers and podcasters you can relate to and fill your “entertainment hours” with reading and listening to what they have to say. And find a social group that either shares or supports your financial mission/values.

Our Thoughts: Thank you so much MSF for this interview and kicking off our Debt Free Finally series. You definitely got us off to a good start. We enjoyed your interview. You shared some great knowledge and tips for those who are trying to get out of debt, especially the idea of immersing yourself in the change you want in your life, which in this case, was debt freedom. It’s the same thing we did during our debt free journey.

If you’re not familiar with MSF, you can check him out at My Sons Father, where he talks about personal finance, family, minimalism, and life in general.


Immerse yourself in the change you want in your life.


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No long caption. I just wanted to make our last “mortgage principal payoff” calendar update. 😆 It’s been a month and it still feels surreal to us...
On Christmas Eve morning, Omar left out of the bed On Christmas Eve morning, Omar left out of the bedroom saying that he had to go work on something. When he came back he handed me a letter that said:
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“As I sit here on the edge of paying our home off I understand that it isn’t completely about us. Our job is to set the next generation up to do better than us, which makes me think of the generation before me. This final payment would not be possible without [Kim’s dad]. He spent his life working for this money and passed away before he got to use it for himself. We agreed to use that money in a way that would always honor him. So for the past 6 years it has funded our oldest son’s 529 [via the minimum required distribution]. Today, that money has grown enough to pay off our mortgage without touching the initial principal. Today we sever ties to debt forever. Today, we say thank you to [Kim’s dad] for the sacrifices he made and the foundation he laid that made it possible. THANK YOU!!”
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Of course after l finished reading the letter I was like... 🥺😭. Truth be told, I still kind of feel that way. It’s part of why it took so long to share the details of paying off our mortgage. Losing a parent is hard.
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Pictured is my dad and I... my favorite picture of of us. He passed away 6 years ago on NYE. He was only 62. After he passed, I found out I was “entitled” to receive part of his pension. Omar and I decided to use some of this money to pay off our mortgage. This is how we were able to pay off most of our $54k balance 7 days into this year.
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This is the short version, but if you want the full details, we wrote a blog post sharing:
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• a recap of our initial mortgage payoff plan + payoff journey
• some background info about the pension + how we almost cashed it out when we first found out about it
• the breakdown of the $$ that it took to make this happen + why we did it this way
• how some things didn’t go as planned
• and each of our thoughts in regards to all of this
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You can find the link in our bio.
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“In all that I do, I strive to make my parents proud. I like to think my dad would be damn proud of me... of us, for this one.” Kim #piecesofsomeday
#tbt To last Thursday (1/7/2021) when we became mo #tbt To last Thursday (1/7/2021) when we became mortgage free!! Yes, you read that correctly! We are 100% debt free! Like debt free, debt free. 🤣
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To be honest, it’s been a week and it still doesn’t feel real to us yet. But it was real watching that money disappear from our account and no longer seeing our mortgage balance when we signed into our credit union account. We must say, our credit union works pretty fast! Lol.
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We didn’t even get around to sharing our mortgage payoff goal for the year with one of the little cute pictures explaining how we were going to do it. But here’s a quick recap of the numbers that we were working with...
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• mortgage principal: $54,507.37
• mortgage interest: $35.84
• reconveyance fee: $69.00
• paying off our mortgage... definitely not priceless, but oh so worth it!! 😂🙌🏽
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We’ll share more in depth details soon because you’re probably wondering how we came up with that amount of money 7 days into January. It definitely wasn’t from hitting the lottery! Lol. But until then, just know that...
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WE’RE MORTGAGE FREE!!! #piecesofsomeday
So we took some Christmas / family pictures back i So we took some Christmas / family pictures back in 2020 (as if that was so long ago), but I never got to share them. 😩 So here’s one. I actually like the fact that it’s in front of our house. #piecesofsomeday
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And I also wanted to add that we finally did another blog post after quite some time. Maybe we’re the world’s worst bloggers. 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♂️ But if you’re interested, we’re sharing a recap of quarter 3 and quarter 4 from our mortgage payoff journey. We’re also sharing what our mortgage payoff goal is for 2021. We’re a bit excited about it! You can check it out at the link in our bio.
2020. This has been a year that I’m sure none of 2020. This has been a year that I’m sure none of us will ever forget. While this year has been ok for us for the most part, there are many people that it’s been a really really tough year for. Whether it’s been financially, emotionally, health wise, etc. etc. etc. So here’s to hoping that next year will be much much better, for everyone, but especially for those who had a tough time this year. ✨♥️
We started 2020 off with owning 43% of our house a We started 2020 off with owning 43% of our house and we now own 69% of it. We had paid off 39% of the mortgage loan and we’re finishing the year out at having 66% of it paid off. (These 2 numbers are not the same for us because of our 5% down payment as well as when we refinanced to a 15-year mortgage.) It’s been really exciting to see these numbers increase this year.
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(Annnnnd this concludes our December numbers. I can’t believe I managed to share them all before the end of the year!! 😂)
Q4 was our best quarter by far, mostly due to the Q4 was our best quarter by far, mostly due to the RSUs that we were able to use. However, even if we hadn’t been able to use them, Q4 would have still wrapped up nicely thanks to us still being able to stick to our 70/30 plan.
For December we were able to color in 4 rectangles For December we were able to color in 4 rectangles. This puts our mortgage balance for the end of 2020 at $54,507.37.
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• 132 rectangles total
• 88 rectangles colored in
• 44 rectangles to go!!
The total of our mortgage principal payments for D The total of our mortgage principal payments for December was $3514.74.
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$995.13 came from our regular payment and $2519.61 came from our budget.
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This put us at meeting our second stretch goal of putting a total of $45,000 towards our mortgage principal for the year! Yes, we did a little magic with our budget in order to get it at exactly $45k, but I’m sure that’s what we all do in when we’re trying to hit a certain number!! Haha.
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We’re soooo happy that we were able to meet this goal because we really weren’t sure if it was going to be possible or not!
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No long caption. I just wanted to make our last “mortgage principal payoff” calendar update. 😆 It’s been a month and it still feels surreal to us...
On Christmas Eve morning, Omar left out of the bed On Christmas Eve morning, Omar left out of the bedroom saying that he had to go work on something. When he came back he handed me a letter that said:
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
“As I sit here on the edge of paying our home off I understand that it isn’t completely about us. Our job is to set the next generation up to do better than us, which makes me think of the generation before me. This final payment would not be possible without [Kim’s dad]. He spent his life working for this money and passed away before he got to use it for himself. We agreed to use that money in a way that would always honor him. So for the past 6 years it has funded our oldest son’s 529 [via the minimum required distribution]. Today, that money has grown enough to pay off our mortgage without touching the initial principal. Today we sever ties to debt forever. Today, we say thank you to [Kim’s dad] for the sacrifices he made and the foundation he laid that made it possible. THANK YOU!!”
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
Of course after l finished reading the letter I was like... 🥺😭. Truth be told, I still kind of feel that way. It’s part of why it took so long to share the details of paying off our mortgage. Losing a parent is hard.
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
Pictured is my dad and I... my favorite picture of of us. He passed away 6 years ago on NYE. He was only 62. After he passed, I found out I was “entitled” to receive part of his pension. Omar and I decided to use some of this money to pay off our mortgage. This is how we were able to pay off most of our $54k balance 7 days into this year.
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
This is the short version, but if you want the full details, we wrote a blog post sharing:
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
• a recap of our initial mortgage payoff plan + payoff journey
• some background info about the pension + how we almost cashed it out when we first found out about it
• the breakdown of the $$ that it took to make this happen + why we did it this way
• how some things didn’t go as planned
• and each of our thoughts in regards to all of this
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You can find the link in our bio.
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“In all that I do, I strive to make my parents proud. I like to think my dad would be damn proud of me... of us, for this one.” Kim #piecesofsomeday
#tbt To last Thursday (1/7/2021) when we became mo #tbt To last Thursday (1/7/2021) when we became mortgage free!! Yes, you read that correctly! We are 100% debt free! Like debt free, debt free. 🤣
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
To be honest, it’s been a week and it still doesn’t feel real to us yet. But it was real watching that money disappear from our account and no longer seeing our mortgage balance when we signed into our credit union account. We must say, our credit union works pretty fast! Lol.
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
We didn’t even get around to sharing our mortgage payoff goal for the year with one of the little cute pictures explaining how we were going to do it. But here’s a quick recap of the numbers that we were working with...
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
• mortgage principal: $54,507.37
• mortgage interest: $35.84
• reconveyance fee: $69.00
• paying off our mortgage... definitely not priceless, but oh so worth it!! 😂🙌🏽
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
We’ll share more in depth details soon because you’re probably wondering how we came up with that amount of money 7 days into January. It definitely wasn’t from hitting the lottery! Lol. But until then, just know that...
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
WE’RE MORTGAGE FREE!!! #piecesofsomeday
So we took some Christmas / family pictures back i So we took some Christmas / family pictures back in 2020 (as if that was so long ago), but I never got to share them. 😩 So here’s one. I actually like the fact that it’s in front of our house. #piecesofsomeday
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
And I also wanted to add that we finally did another blog post after quite some time. Maybe we’re the world’s worst bloggers. 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♂️ But if you’re interested, we’re sharing a recap of quarter 3 and quarter 4 from our mortgage payoff journey. We’re also sharing what our mortgage payoff goal is for 2021. We’re a bit excited about it! You can check it out at the link in our bio.
2020. This has been a year that I’m sure none of 2020. This has been a year that I’m sure none of us will ever forget. While this year has been ok for us for the most part, there are many people that it’s been a really really tough year for. Whether it’s been financially, emotionally, health wise, etc. etc. etc. So here’s to hoping that next year will be much much better, for everyone, but especially for those who had a tough time this year. ✨♥️
We started 2020 off with owning 43% of our house a We started 2020 off with owning 43% of our house and we now own 69% of it. We had paid off 39% of the mortgage loan and we’re finishing the year out at having 66% of it paid off. (These 2 numbers are not the same for us because of our 5% down payment as well as when we refinanced to a 15-year mortgage.) It’s been really exciting to see these numbers increase this year.
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
(Annnnnd this concludes our December numbers. I can’t believe I managed to share them all before the end of the year!! 😂)
Q4 was our best quarter by far, mostly due to the Q4 was our best quarter by far, mostly due to the RSUs that we were able to use. However, even if we hadn’t been able to use them, Q4 would have still wrapped up nicely thanks to us still being able to stick to our 70/30 plan.
For December we were able to color in 4 rectangles For December we were able to color in 4 rectangles. This puts our mortgage balance for the end of 2020 at $54,507.37.
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• 132 rectangles total
• 88 rectangles colored in
• 44 rectangles to go!!
The total of our mortgage principal payments for D The total of our mortgage principal payments for December was $3514.74.
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
$995.13 came from our regular payment and $2519.61 came from our budget.
⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀
This put us at meeting our second stretch goal of putting a total of $45,000 towards our mortgage principal for the year! Yes, we did a little magic with our budget in order to get it at exactly $45k, but I’m sure that’s what we all do in when we’re trying to hit a certain number!! Haha.
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We’re soooo happy that we were able to meet this goal because we really weren’t sure if it was going to be possible or not!
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